Chicago Fed’s Goolsbee (’25 voter, dove) pushes the uncertainty angle under US trade policy in an appearance on public radio.
- "You just tell us what the conditions are going to be, and then we'll figure out what jacket to put on, right? And the thing is, now what jacket to put on is not clear”.
- He also noted that some Trump administration policymakers are saying that tariffs are not going to last and some saying tariffs will be put in place forever.
- Goolsbee said Trump's tariff increases have been "way bigger" than expected and he is not waiting for the hard data to come in and has spent time talking to consumers and firms in his region.
- "The anxiety I hear the most is this. We just lived through and learned what happens when the supply chain gets disrupted all through Covid. And we just lived through and learned what happens when inflation is raging out of control in '21 and '22. The anxiety is this is going to take us back to a thing we spent the last five years desperately trying to get away from, and is this just going to put us back where the lessons we never wanted to learn become super relevant again?"
- “We can’t really wait to the end of the quarter plus one month before we find out that investment really dropped off and GDP growth is shrinking, and we start seeing layoffs, unemployment, or on the other side, inflation starts soaring,”
Goolsbee had sounded his most hawkish in quite some time yesterday in a separate appearance:
- “The anxiety is if these tariffs are as big as what are threatened on the US side, and if there’s massive retaliation, and then if there’s counter retaliation again, it might send us back to the kind of conditions that we saw in ‘21 and ‘22, when inflation’s raging out of control,”